DISCUSSIONE n. 6: scadenza 15 febbraio

I was really hoping nothing of this kind would happen, but here we are.

 

YES, you MUST leave a comment simply indicating that you read the thread. Nothing else.

 

If you want to add your personal opinion etc. go ahead, but it's not required.

 

 

I received this interesting message with a courteous inquiry about the reason for a no credit in a compito.   On 2/12/2017 10:42 AM, XXXXXXX wrote: Goodmorning professor, I didn't receive credit for this work ? I thought you said to put our Italian name as the file name. I'm very confused.

But this wasn't the only message I received from students who got a NO CREDIT, so I thought I would clarify for all:   On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 1:01 PM, italian1 spring17 <italian1spring17@oggi-domani.com> wrote:   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE WITH a statement that you watched the tutorial video  at http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/modlang/carasi/courses/0000000.SPRING.17. TEACHING/01.italian.1.spring17/02.LEZIONI/02.LEZIONE.9febbraio/ LEZIONE.02.ITALIAN1.ONLINE.9febbraio.htm and that you were aware of all the requirements BEFORE you did your compito. MOREOVER, state that you read and followed the directions in the compito itself that reads: SCADENZA 9 febbraio COMPITO  FILENAME: your-italian-name.9febbraio  (only RTF, DOC or DOCX) EMAIL SUBJECT:   compito nove febbraio due mila diciassette YESSSSIR! the email subject MUST CONTAIN the entire date, spelled out, in ITALIANO If you received no credit for "a little stupid error," chances are next time you will be more careful.

On 2/12/2017 1:43 PM, XXXXXXXX wrote:  Observe that according to the student  "I" didn't "put into the instructions" the info necessary to avoid an error. It is obviously MY fault. I did everything that you put in the instructions. I put my Italian name in the file name and I put the appropriate words in the email subject. If there was any "little stuid error" made it would be an error that you didnt put into the instructions.

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 1:46 PM, italian1 spring17 <italian1spring17@oggi-domani.com> wrote: Did you OPEN the file? What did you see at the top?

On 2/12/2017 1:51 PM, XXXXXXXXX wrote:   Yes I did. It says "who are you? No credit" but I clearly put my italian name in the file like you asked. "celestino.9febbraio" Here is the compito sent by the student. The red ink notes at the top are mine.

On 2/12/2017 1:53 PM, XXXXXXX wrote: But, according to the student, it's my fault, because " I " didn't put something into the instructions..... So because you didn't put something into the instructions of an assignment, I get no credit even though I spent over an hour working on it.

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 2:08 PM, italian1 spring17 <italian1spring17@oggi-domani.com> wrote: So, I played the video tutorial that you all saw, I took a screenshot of the relevant info and sent it with a comment below it     and now what other rude and obnoxious argument are you going to come up with?

On 2/12/2017 3:11 PM, XXXXX wrote: The student of course is not rude or obnoxious. (Actually, rude and obnoxious people are so because they generally lack the finesse to understand they are rude and obnoxious. )   Notice again that it's my fault for not making the instructions clear. Now, that is really really obnoxious. I'm not being rude and or obnoxious. I asked you a simple question and you decided to speak to me like a child and refer to what I was asking as a "little stupid mistake". If you don't want to give me credit for an assignment because you didn't make the instructions clear that's fine but if this is how you interact with students on a regular basis it's truly a shame. Thank you.

ITALIAN 1010 code 52869 NET1 On 2/12/2017 4:30 PM, italian1 spring17 wrote: The student asked "a simple question" and now the student is hurt. My reply. I responded interlinearly copying part of the previous message (my response in BLUE INK) ITALIAN 1010 code 52869 NET1 On 2/12/2017 3:11 PM, XXXXXXX wrote:   I'm not being rude and or obnoxious. I asked you a simple question and you decided to speak to me like a child that was the question of a whiny, lazy, little child who believes s/he is always right by default and that everyone else must cater to their whims. good luck finding the right universe out there where your fantasy-world will be realized.

ITALIAN 1010 code 52869 NET1 On 2/12/2017 6:10 PM, xxxx wrote: And there you have it. Perfect reversal of reality. Complete refusal to accept responsibility. And a solid hour of my time wasted. didn't ask to be catered too, sir. I asked a question. You are my professor. I would like to be able to ask a question without being called names. Your instructions were unclear. How could I believe I am always right if I'm asking a question to obtain clarity? Maybe you are the very names you decided to attack me with since you believe I don't have the right to ask a professor any questions. Nice to know you live in a "fantasy world" where students "cater to your whims" and not ask you any questions.

What is the moral of the story: in 99% of similar cases, the student made a mistake. So, before you jump to the conclusion that you MUST be right and I am some kind of witless moron, THINK TWICE and check THREE TIMES. And when you find I made a mistake, I WILL THANK YOU for point it out. And so should you.